And how do you reinvent altbier in the land of altbier?
You take someone like me, who is not a local, and you say: make an altbier. (Mario laughs.) With altbier varieties, either the coffee-like roasted flavour comes to the fore, which you get with the special malt, or they’re very hoppy and bitter. We are convinced that a good altbier has both qualities, but they’re balanced, so you taste both but neither is too dominant. Apart from that, there are also lighter altbier varieties, which are smoother because both the hops and the malt flavours are more subtle. We wanted a balance, and also a fizziness. When an altbier gets to your table, it should still have enough bubbles for a nice mouthfeel.
What is your favourite among your beers?
We’ve had a wheat beer here on tap in the brewery since last year. When the wheat beer season starts here in the beer garden with no pandemic-related restrictions, I’ll be very curious to see how it sells. Sometimes the best thing is also the easiest: a classic, light wheat beer with all the parameters we learned in school. Lots of wheat beer breweries have moved away from that. So a wheat beer like ours really makes a difference. It has the typical banana aroma you can create really well through fermentation in small, open tanks.
What other kind of beer would you like to brew?
I worked at Doemens, in product development at a pilot brewery, so I got to experiment quite a lot, of course – such as with an ultra-strong beer with 20% alcohol from natural fermentation and with 100 varieties of hops. I could actually imagine brewing a Berliner Weisse at Schlüffken for the right occasion. Sour beer is a lot of work to make, of course. If it’s going to be worth it, a small brewery needs a well-planned campaign so you can move the beer out within a week. I’d like to make a wheat bock beer aged in wooden barrels for my own private consumption someday. That’s not a mass-market product, but the ageing in a wooden barrel intrigues me because it can have really surprising effects on the taste.